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Damion Rayne
Lorentz Technology Group
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Posted - 2012.08.09 14:41:00 -
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This is complete and utter BS Teamwork.. Maturity.. Tactics.. www.tacticalgamer.com |
Damion Rayne
Lorentz Technology Group
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Posted - 2012.08.09 14:44:00 -
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CCP Sreegs wrote:Velarra wrote:CCP Sreegs wrote:The core of the logic that's actually being applied here is that this only applies to fringe cases and anyone engaging in normal gameplay is completely unaffected.
Clearly the news item wasn't clear enough about that so I've had it edited. Within the context of this ruling, what is normal game play as regards shipping of goods? Fill up Freighter / Industrial with goods in cargo, set AP route for 50 jumps. How many of those jumps can be done fully AP'd? How many does a pilot have to be at the keys for? Nothing in this news article even remotely hints at anything remotely related to hauling or really any other activity that isn't farming plexes while unattended.
I honestly and whole hardheartedly believe you have NO clue what you're doing. I'm going to go out on a limb here and publicly denounce pretty much everything you say. I run plexes in 0.0 when I was in Test and Dark Rising and you are now effectively telling me that running those plexs with a drone boat, and going afk, is against the rules? I've got NO confidence in you as a Dev Sreegs, None. Teamwork.. Maturity.. Tactics.. www.tacticalgamer.com |
Damion Rayne
Lorentz Technology Group
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Posted - 2012.08.09 14:46:00 -
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Brokers Clone wrote:CCP Sreegs wrote:If you are aware of a way for miners to mine AFK with no third party programs 24 hours a day without being at their machines and managing cargo then I'm all ears. Enter belt with uuber-tanked ship and some nice shiney drones Wait Watch rats spawn See drones kill rats... get bounty Wait Watch rats spawn See drones kill rats... get bounty Wait Watch rats spawn See drones kill rats... get bounty Wait Watch rats spawn See drones kill rats... get bounty etc...etc...etc...
This Sreegs, you obviously don't play the game anymore mate. Teamwork.. Maturity.. Tactics.. www.tacticalgamer.com |
Damion Rayne
Lorentz Technology Group
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Posted - 2012.08.09 14:52:00 -
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Lucas Quaan wrote:Damion Rayne wrote:I run plexes in 0.0 when I was in Test and Dark Rising and you are now effectively telling me that running those plexs with a drone boat, and going afk, is against the rules? It's not and you are an idiot for thinking so.
You're an idiot for thinking it's wrong, I've got a child to take care of. You're telling me I'm not allowed to put out sentry drones, run a single plex afk, move to the next plex and do it again? What kinda fascist control crap is this? Well since i can't be at the key's 100% of my play time now, and Sreegs will ban me or something, If I walk away for 10 minuets, suppose I just stop logging in unless I can be at the keyboard for 6 hours straight. I'm sure my wife and 2 month old will enjoy my lack of being able to walk away from the computer. Ya know, because Id' rather net have "administrative action" taken against my account for walkign away for an hour. Teamwork.. Maturity.. Tactics.. www.tacticalgamer.com |
Damion Rayne
Lorentz Technology Group
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Posted - 2012.08.09 15:02:00 -
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Vera Algaert wrote:You discover an issue with game design that allows for unintended consequences. Now you can
(A) Fix game design so the unintended consequences can no longer happen. (B) Leave the "trick" in the game but ban everyone who uses it.
Takes a special kind of developer to choose (B).
This issue has been well known for months and yet there is no proper fix (rework static plexes), instead we get a honeytrap because Sreegs just enjoys blowing up AT ships and banning unsuspecting players.
The very least you could do is give us an official database of behaviors that are consciously made possible but CCP but will get you banned - this news article and discussion thread will be buried in a few weeks (and compete for attention with many prior GD threads which generally declared this behavior legal) and smart players will keep rediscovering this "exploit" over and over.
Agreed with pretty much all of this. Teamwork.. Maturity.. Tactics.. www.tacticalgamer.com |
Damion Rayne
Lorentz Technology Group
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Posted - 2012.08.09 15:11:00 -
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CCP Sreegs wrote:Damion Rayne wrote:Brokers Clone wrote:CCP Sreegs wrote:If you are aware of a way for miners to mine AFK with no third party programs 24 hours a day without being at their machines and managing cargo then I'm all ears. Enter belt with uuber-tanked ship and some nice shiney drones Wait Watch rats spawn See drones kill rats... get bounty Wait Watch rats spawn See drones kill rats... get bounty Wait Watch rats spawn See drones kill rats... get bounty Wait Watch rats spawn See drones kill rats... get bounty etc...etc...etc... This Sreegs, you obviously don't play the game anymore mate. Except that he stated mining then used ratting as an example, which would certainly still be detected and fall into the same category.
It's the same bloody thing! Let me give you an example,
I park my hulk in a belt, target roids, put out some drones and practically go afk watching tv on net flix while only every so often switching clients to have my alt come pick up a load. The main account is for all intents, AFK..pretty sure the way I understand how you're handling things lately, you'd ban us from doing this to eventually. I mean come on...what's the exact details of this?
What do you define as "Normal Game-play", because I'd like to know. I've been online for 12-13 hour sessions before, and I know other people have. Teamwork.. Maturity.. Tactics.. www.tacticalgamer.com |
Damion Rayne
Lorentz Technology Group
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Posted - 2012.08.09 15:18:00 -
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War Kitten wrote:Damion Rayne wrote:Lucas Quaan wrote:Damion Rayne wrote:I run plexes in 0.0 when I was in Test and Dark Rising and you are now effectively telling me that running those plexs with a drone boat, and going afk, is against the rules? It's not and you are an idiot for thinking so. You're an idiot for thinking it's wrong, I've got a child to take care of. You're telling me I'm not allowed to put out sentry drones, run a single plex afk, move to the next plex and do it again? What kinda fascist control crap is this? Well since i can't be at the key's 100% of my play time now, and Sreegs will ban me or something, If I walk away for 10 minuets, suppose I just stop logging in unless I can be at the keyboard for 6 hours straight. I'm sure my wife and 2 month old will enjoy my lack of being able to walk away from the computer. Ya know, because Id' rather net have "administrative action" taken against my account for walkign away for an hour. I would just like to have one thing clarified... Is this the character with which you go AFK on to do your plexing? Inquiring locator agents want to know...
I don't do afk plexing anymore, the last time I did was almost a year and a half ago when Dark was in TEST. Or however long ago it was, if you feel froggy, come to Vale. I've got plenty of guns and ammo with your name on it if you wanna be an internet badass and think I care. Teamwork.. Maturity.. Tactics.. www.tacticalgamer.com |
Damion Rayne
Lorentz Technology Group
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Posted - 2012.08.09 18:22:00 -
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I wonder when Sreeg's is going to release that this has been handled very very badly. Teamwork.. Maturity.. Tactics.. www.tacticalgamer.com |
Damion Rayne
Lorentz Technology Group
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Posted - 2012.08.09 18:30:00 -
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Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:CARB0N FIBER wrote:How do you know I'm AFK?
Are you hacking my web cam?
Is there a time limit on how long I can play?
What is this time limit?
Will this time limit be like other rules, where we don't know what it is till we are banned?
Since playing 23 hours a day is now a bannable offense will we be getting a dicounted rate?
So we pay for 720 hours of game time, in which we can play 690 hours. So how many of the 690 hours of the 720 hours we pay for can we play without getting banned?
Another thing, ALT's. Obviously if you have multiple accounts logged in one is AFK. So should you banned if you have multiple accounts?
I know you saying something like I'm not AFK, I have a screen and keyboard for every account. How do we know that? This is a very old, old issue. I have proof of people getting banned and sent a GM message stating they did not detect any botting software but their "too regular and prolonged gameplay" flagged them as bots. This is why in the past I always asked CCP Sreegs for ways for players to defend and prove their innocence. This is why I created multiple in game tickets about the same matter and all of them got a "players cannot defend themselves, they will be banned with no ability of recourse" reply.
Which in fact proves that this entire thing is being handled in an entirely incompetent manner. Let's just remember, big brother Sreegs is watching us and if we play for more than a few hours straight and we're not actively pushing buttons, it's best to just log off. Oh and that will eventually go to hauling, mining, salvaging, PI, day-trading, and mission running. Teamwork.. Maturity.. Tactics.. www.tacticalgamer.com |
Damion Rayne
Lorentz Technology Group
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Posted - 2012.08.10 12:41:00 -
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So any word from our resident Team Security guy? Aka the overly hostile, ex-goon, who I have no confidence in what so ever? Aka Sreegs...in case you were wondering. All the backlash to this very very poorly handled situation and we've got nothing from anyone other than Sreegs, who has been just as hostile to us as we have been in response to how badly his team is handling this situation. Come on CCP, you are better than this...I know, because I've worked with you guys.. Teamwork.. Maturity.. Tactics.. www.tacticalgamer.com |
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